Starting a Site Not Quite From Scratch: My Review of the AdSense Flippers

by Adam on December 1, 2011

As I mentioned the other day, I recently purchased a niche AdSense website from the AdSense Flippers.

Although this seemingly goes against what I wrote about a few weeks ago (that AdSense sites are not the strongest online business model), let me explain why I did this.

I wanted to provide a real look at their business model and write an honest, in-depth review of their work.

This is something I may eventually try to do for every top blogger who sells products or services. But I thought I’d start with Justin and Joe and see how things go from there.

So what exactly was I looking to answer?

I wanted to see how exactly the process of buying a niche site from them works, looking at how easy or difficult it might be.

I wanted to judge the quality of the sites they offer, as well as the long-term viability of these sites.

After all, if each site were a real powerhouse, you’d assume they’d keep it for the passive income. So I wanted to see if they’re just selling off their junk, or if they’ve mastered the process and do in fact use the cash to replicate their business cycle.

I wanted to see whether the sites they sell are worth the money. That is, do they sell the sites for a fair multiple, or would it be easier to simply do the work yourself?

And lastly, I wanted to reverse-engineer some of their work.

They’re obviously very successful at keyword research, building a site, and quickly getting it ranking and making money. So I was curious whether an inside look at one of their websites might provide some helpful tips for me to use in the future.

I also wanted to experiment more with niche websites myself.

I enjoy watching Pat Flynn and Chris Ducker build out their main niche websites, and I thought it might be interesting to read about the same experience from the perspective of someone who’s not quite an expert.

These guys are constantly improving their sites and generating a growing stream of revenue, so I’m hoping I can replicate some of this success.

I also wanted to test some theories I have about making Adsense sites even better. Though most sites typically look like spam, I think they can be tastefully made in a Google-friendly and — more importantly — user-friendly way. And so I wanted to see what effect this would have on their profitability.

I already have a few small niche sites of my own, but they haven’t been successful. They rank well… but don’t make money.

So obviously it’s much easier to experiment with my ideas on a site that is already actually making money in a commercially viable niche.

I also wanted to improve upon their work.

The site I bought was small, with a just a handful of backlinks I could find, and with decent content.

I’m curious how the site will perform if I take their foundation and try to improve upon it.

Will adding more articles, more backlinks, and really strong content make the site more profitable, or will this have a negative effect on the ads’ click-through rate (CTR)? Then again, if I can get significantly more traffic coming to the site, a small drop in CTR might be worth it.

I’ll go into the specifics of my plans below.

First, let me share with you the entire process I went through when buying a site from the Adsense Flippers.

I started by emailing them over the weekend, letting them know of my interest.

Within hours I had a reply back.

After you send a 20% deposit, they’ll share the website’s URL with you, along with the Google analytics report and AdSense report.

They require this deposit to protect the integrity of the niche sites that buyers will purchase. After all, if this system weren’t in place, it’d be easy to copy everything they’ve built which would ultimately weaken the site for whomever buys it.

So I received the URL and the reports for a small .org apparel site created in June, running on the CTR theme.

There were a bunch of apparel sites they were selling that interested me, but this one was unbranded (meaning it wasn’t targeting a specific clothing brand).

My thinking was that a branded website would probably always be outranked by the website of the brand itself, so I wanted a site targeting a keyword I had a realistic shot at ranking #1 for.

The niche was something I could see myself working on in my spare time. It’s not a passion or an area I’m an expert in, but it’s also not something that bores the hell out of me.

So then I went to Google, and saw that it had 10 pages indexed — 5 articles, and an About Us page, Privacy Policy, Contact Us page, the sitemap, and the homepage.

The website had 992 views in the past 30 days, and roughly $30 in earnings over the same period. It was ranking on the first page of Google for the target keyword, with a CPC of around $1.10.

The Google analytics report also showed a good mix of traffic sources, with about 10% direct, 13% referrals, and the remainder coming from search. The keyword traffic was also strong and varied; the top keyword drove about 27% of the search traffic, and long tails making up about 50%. Also, only about 45% of the traffic was American, meaning it shows appeal internationally as well.

I used Majestic SEO to track down 11 external backlinks from 6 domains (5 of which were Class C). So my guess is they use a link-building product or service for this.

Alas, it all boiled down to price.

Price isn’t the most important factor when buying a website, but it’s definitely an important one to consider. You don’t want to overpay for a website that won’t be a strong performer.

Ultimately, I paid 17 times monthly earnings for the website.

This may seem high, but here’s why I was fine paying a bit more for a quality website:

1. I trust Justin and Joe. If I went to Flippa and found some random site for cheap, it’s very possible I would have gotten screwed.

I’ve read stories about people who bought niche sites that were eventually blacklisted by Google because of the folks who built it.

I’m just speculating here, but Justin and Joe seem like the kind of guys that, if something like this happened to a site you purchased from them, they’d be happy to swap it out for a similar site.

2.  As I mentioned from the beginning, I have a job during the day, as well as a wife and three kids. Needless to say, my time comes at a premium.

So in my mind, I wasn’t just paying for the website, I was paying for hours of research, writing, setup, backlinking, and the testing time they’ve spent perfecting their process.

If I tried to do everything myself, it would’ve taken many interrupted hours of work — and probably ended up dragging on several months longer — to get the site where it is today.

3.  Because I’m convinced the site has the potential to earn even more money each month. 

In fact, if I can double the traffic, the multiple I paid would be just about 8.5 times monthly earnings. Now I may not be able to do this in a month (though I’m certainly going to try), but I do think there are several steps I can take to draw more Googlers to the site, while getting them to click on the ads.

After I made my decision, I sent them the money via Paypal.

Within minutes, I had a response from Joe confirming my purchase and providing me with a request for the information he needed to complete the transaction.

He asked for:

  • Several AdSense unit codes. Again, the site uses a CTR theme, which rotates through ad placements and sizes, so there were a total of four ads I needed to set up and send.
  • Domain registration information. They had the domain registered with GoDaddy, so I had to send him my GoDaddy account number, email address, and full name to switch it over to my account. He told me that changing registrars is a bit more complicated, but they’re still able to do it.
  • Hosting information. If I used GoDaddy for hosting as well, I would have had to temporarily add them as an Account Executive so they could transfer the site to my hosting account. But all of my websites are hosting with Bluehost, so I had to give him some additional login information to transfer the website to my account. I understand this might make some people nervous, but 1) I trust these guys, 2) they assured me that only one of them would have access to the information, and 3) you could always create a new password and immediately change it back after the transfer is complete.

The ads were swapped out within two days of my purchase (it was probably less than a full 48 hours since I noticed the code had changed on the morning of the second day after I purchased).

And by day three, everything had been fully migrated over to my accounts.

The process itself was extremely smooth, and Justin and Joe are incredibly easy to work with. Any question I had was answered immediately, and any confusion I had they quickly helped me work through.

So for my two-minute elevator pitch, here are my key positive and negative takeaways…

Positives:

1. I can’t say it enough, but these guys are probably the easiest, most trustworthy guys to work with when buying a website.

And this, in my opinion, is a hugely important factor. It can be easy to get burned, so I needed to know that the folks on the other side of the table were people I could trust.

They’re also ready to offer you greater technical assistance should you need it. I imagine if you’re a complete newbie, they’d be happy to guide you through exactly what you need to complete a purchase of one of their sites.

And, although I’m not sure if it’s an official guarantee or not (Justin & Joe: maybe you can comment below on exactly what it means), but they clearly state that they stand behind every one of the sites they sell.

I imagine that if you experience problems or short-term difficulties, they’d be happy to help you fix it, which is an assuring thing to know.

2. The site I bought is really in great shape for the price I paid.

As I said above, the multiple might seem high, but if I were to add up all the hours (or contracted-out hours) I’d have spent research keyword ideas and narrowing it down to just one, finding an available domain, registering the domain, installing plugins and themes, researching article content, writing articles, editing articles, publishing articles, building a good internal link structure, building backlinks (and on, and on) — it is really amazing how cheaply you can get all of this done for you in one package deal.

Potential Negatives:

1. The process was very smooth, but it’s not instantaneous. I had assumed that the site would be in my reigns in hours, but obviously there are many steps involved so you need to be a tad patient.

Still, owning the ads two days later and the full site three days later isn’t bad.

2. Justin & Joe live in and work from the Philippines, so if you’re planning to buy your site during what coincides with nighttime in the Philippines, your responses might not be as quick as mine. Luckily, my free time is before work (their late night) and after work (their morning).

3. There wasn’t a lot of “what to do now” after the process was complete. I’m not a newbie, so I do have ideas for how to improve the site I purchased. But if you don’t have these ideas, it’d be a huge value-add for them to share some tips to continue building backlinks, how to ensure your site retains its rankings, etc.

One thing I would have also found valuable is a list of related long-tail keywords that I could target with additional articles.

As you can see, the positives definitely outweigh the potential negatives. Even the negatives aren’t real negatives — they’re more possible inconveniences or things to be aware of.

So now, a few days into my ownership of the site, traffic is in line with its daily average over the past month (earnings not so much — hopefully this is just a short-term blip). So I’m optimistic everything will remain just a sound.

Or get even better!

So now that the site is mine… all mine… here’s how I plan to get it earning even more cash than it is now:

  1. Publish some more articles targeting additional long-tail keywords.
  2. Continue building backlinks to improve ranking for the primary keyword. The site got just about 3% of its traffic from its primary keyword that gets roughly 1,000 searches monthly. If a #1 ranking equates to about 40% of the clicks (I’ve read this is a good estimate), then getting to #1 would be more than a 1,000% increase in traffic.
  3. Build backlinks to the new articles, trickling in links from social liking sites as well as using some white-hat links from sites like EZineArticles.com.
  4. Experiment with adding daily content in a buried blog to see if this helps boost its rankings any.
  5. Eventually, I’d also like to toy with the design a little bit, possibly incorporating some of the stuff I’ve learned from Derek Halpern’s site to see if I can use it to improve the CTR on ads.

Now it’s time for me to get busy turning this site into a huge success!

Like I said, I plan to keep you updated on everything I’m doing, and be completely honest and transparent on how it unfolds.

While I’m not comfortable sharing the niche site’s URL in the foreseeable future (after all, it’s so small and in such a tiny niche that the idea could easily be stolen, as I’ve seen happen to a lot of bloggers), I’m going to be completely upfront about traffic, rankings, and AdSense earnings.

If you’d like to be updated of the progress of this niche site, sign up for my free email newsletter in the box below, and I’ll make sure to share all the details with you.

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Hugh Kimura December 1, 2011 at 7:13 pm

Great review, thanks for the info! I actually just started following AdsesnseFlippers too and thanks to their free ebook, I found a couple of low competition .net domains that I am going to build out as the start for my niche portfolio.

I was like you, I wrote off Adsense sites years ago. But in listening to their podcasts and seeing how much those sites can be flipped for they changed my mind. Although they pretty much do any keyword that fits the criteria, I’m targeting keywords that can be built out as an authority site and would allow someone to expand on their passion.

Looking forward to seeing your progress with this site!!

Cheers,
Hugh

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Adam December 1, 2011 at 9:18 pm

Hugh,

They’re definitely a great bunch of guys to follow and learn from.

Are you going to be blogging about your niche portfolio build-out? Would love to see your progress as well.

I agree with you that I think authority sites are really the way to go as a long-term solution…

Thanks for stopping by and commenting,
Adam

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Joe Magnotti | AdSenseFlippers.com December 1, 2011 at 7:16 pm

Thanks for the review Adam! I’m glad things went smoothly.

I would add that while we work in the Philippines, Justin works a normal US schedule and I work a day time PI schedule (night in the US), so we theoretically have 24 hour coverage. We also have a staff to cover any emergencies should the need arise.

I do see the need for us to improve the “what to now” problem especially for newbies, like you indicated. Perhaps we’ll put something together for new sites owners. For those unfamiliar with WordPress, I do a live Skype video walk through of how things work.

Make sure to stop by again if you’re interested in another site!

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Adam December 1, 2011 at 8:29 pm

Joe,

Thanks for the comment. Didn’t realize that about your alternating schedule, thanks for clearing that up.

And I’m glad that it looks like my suggestions may be a little bit helpful after all.

I’ll definitely be back when this site’s turned into a cash-generating machine! ;-)

Adam

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Jared @ Trickle Cheddar December 1, 2011 at 9:15 pm

I can tell you, taking a site from #3 to #1 can far more than triple the income! Push that sucker on up, and you’ll earn your money back very quickly and have a nice passive source of income. Those long-tail pages will be nice too. Congrats on the purchase.

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Adam December 1, 2011 at 9:31 pm

Jared,

Thanks dude. I’m definitely going to do all I can to move on up!

It doesn’t seem like a horribly daunting tasks to continue moving up the ranks for the primary keyword (especially since I think the site wasn’t even on page 1 when I began looking my research). So I’m very optimistic.

And yea, there are really a seemingly endless number of long-terms (a lot of which are in foreign languages, so maybe even target those specific countries that seem to have the highest traffic?) that the site is not even in the top 50 for (all of which have $1+ CPCs), so I’m very motivated by that fact, and think this thing can easily become a cash cow for me.

Of course this is so long as I do the backlinking smartly… which is my concern. Don’t want to build it out too quickly or too recklessly and potentially jeopardize the current amount of traffic, so I think I’ll probably be more cautious than anything.

Thanks for stopping by dude — not sure if you follow me on Twitter, but I tweeted something a few weeks ago stating that I’m going to be switching a few things up in the leaderboard. Haven’t quite fleshed it out completely (whether I’m going to do separate ones for different categories, or just one giant ongoing leaderboard, or something else entirely), but part of it will be an “up-and-comer” list. So keep an eye out for that… might see your name on there! ;-)

Cheers, and thanks again dude!
Adam

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Jared @ Trickle Cheddar December 3, 2011 at 4:08 pm

Heck yeah!

The main part of caution in this game I think it patience. Don’t overdo the backlinking and you should be fine. And remind yourself that age is a factor in the algorithm, so it’s okay to wait! Age of page, age of domain, age of links, etc. Take your time. Rock on, good sir. Rock on.

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Shay December 2, 2011 at 8:32 am

Great infomation and look forward to further updates.

Also, comes across as completely honest, nice to see this on the web.

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